Embracing Quiet Confidence: People & Culture Catalyst, Lily Woi's Advice for Introverted Professionals

Debra Coleman [00:00:08]:
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Have A Seat, Conversations with Women

Lily [00:00:13]:
in the Workplace podcast. I am your host, Deborah. Well, hello, and I hope this week is a good one for you. And if it is a week That is presenting some challenges. Then I my wish for you is that you will find you the strength and the patience to work through them to a successful conclusion. You got this. I see you. You're gonna be just fine.

Lily [00:00:40]:
Alright, everybody. Welcome back to another episode. Today, I am Thrilled to have Lily Woy joining us. Lily is not your typical executive coach. She is on a mission to help leaders unleash their hidden superpowers and thrive in their careers. With her extensive experience As a culture and leadership expert, published author, and sought after international speaker, Lilly brings a unique perspective to the table. But my friend, what sets her apart is her journey from corporate life to entrepreneurship, where she discovered the power of quiet confidence. In her book, Quiet Confidence, thriving in a world full of noise that we are going To chat about today, Lily shares her personal story of navigating the challenges of introversion in a noisy world and how she turned it into her greatest strength.

Lily [00:01:39]:
I was so fascinated by that because I know that on some level, We all sort of run the spectrum of we have our moments of being a bit more introverted, and then we have our moments where we're a bit more extroverted. And if you're like me, you also attribute extrovert and introvert to our energy levels that can also, you know, fluctuate in any given moment. So When I read about this part of Lily's bio and learned more about her, I knew right away that this is the subject I wanted to talk to her about, thriving in a world full of noise as an introvert in the workplace. So If you've ever felt overwhelmed by the constant hustle and bustle of corporate life, then trust me, my friend, you are in for a treat. Lily is here to share her insights on how to break free from the noise and embrace your true potential and thrive in your career. Sure. Oh, sound good to you? It sounds wonderful to me, and our conversation reflected just that. I can't wait to share it with you.

Lily [00:02:40]:
So Without further ado, have a seat with Lily Woy and I, and let's dive in. Alright. Well, thank you again, miss Lily Woy for joining us joining me today. I'm excited to have this conversation. As we discussed a little bit before I hit that record Button. Lily is a people and culture catalyst, which first of all, adore that title. I think that is fantastic. First of all, to be a catalyst For others, it's so empowering.

Lily [00:03:10]:
But she authored a book, Quiet Confidence, Thriving in a World Full of Noise, where, Lily, you shared your introverted journey and how that intersected with building the career that you now treasure. And I thought it would be lovely, Listeners to sort of you know, while while we have this time with Lily to learn and dive a bit more into the intersection of confidence Diversion. So once again, thank you miss Lily for joining me today.

Lily [00:03:39]:
I am very excited to be here, and I can't wait to kind of dive into the conversation today.

Lily [00:03:45]:
Yes. Thank you. Me too. Me too. As I briefly shared with Lily before we recorded, I I I Definitely would love to do a round 2 and to speak more about, her people and culture catalyst, work and how she advises, you know, organizations to, you know, up their culture game, so to speak, to put a red bow around it. But, I also felt though that I loved that she authored a book on introvert being an introvert and building your career with that acknowledgement. Because I think, especially post 2020 that many women in the workplace, I feel, were really struggling in that area. And so, with that being said, miss Lilly, What prompted you maybe to write your book on this particular subject?

Lily [00:04:36]:
Many things. Many things. I think, the thought of writing down and sharing My journey was something that came up to me a few few years ago, when I started my business doing, Career and leadership coaching. And there was something in me that's driving me that, you know what? The journey that I went True, I'm not alone on this. But while I was going through that journey, I felt so alone. And I wanted to make sure that to to share that experience with the people that might resonate with my journey and Find the resources, learn from my experience, learn from the things that I did wrong or made mistakes on, And how they can get confident or gain confident and not feel so alone on their journey. So that's kind of like how what made me

Lily [00:05:45]:
I love that. And I I love the bravery also it took, you know, to to, first of all, to be to author anything takes a lot of courage in my opinion, because you really are you know, you're sharing as you as the subject matter of your book. You know? You're sharing your Your you know, some private thoughts or your own personal journey. And as you said, you felt, maybe there are moments of feeling alone along your career your career path. And so to actually acknowledge that and put it out there and to share that is almost counterintuitive, you know, to what you wanna do. So first of all, thank you For writing the book and for maybe, possibly, letting others not feel quite so alone either by sharing your thoughts and your journey in this Fuck. So

Lily [00:06:28]:
appreciate that. Yeah. And I think you you have really kinda correctly pinpointed that That it is. For me, I found it quite an intimate experience writing that book. Especially Sharing that book with my closest network, er, my closest people. Because, in a way, it is kind of ticking you know, lifting the curtains of My the struggles I went through, that I believe most of the time, the people closest to me might not even know the depth of the struggle that I went through. So I had an easier time sharing my journey or kind of publishing my book with people that I don't know, compared to the people that I know that actually also support me 100%. So it was quite an interesting experience, Kind of narrating or kind of, writing this book.

Lily [00:07:34]:
Interesting. So did once Those in your inner circle, those closest to you read your book and and got a better sense of your journey and what you went through. Did you find that many that that resonated? That that that that that many of the people that you did know, echo, they're saying that they have maybe the same experience?

Lily [00:07:58]:
Yeah. Yeah. I have gotten so much Positive feedback from the book itself, how I have shared it, why if I share it, and kind of the resources or The the learnings that I've put into it. So I this book is aimed to be very practical on how do you That leveraging or kind of working and maximizing your introvertedness, superpower. And so, that's kind of the anger that I went for. And a lot of it is geared on, okay, you know, What is the current situation? What you might be feeling at the moment? And what are some of the things that you can do immediately to help you to start Resetting how you see yourself, how you see your strengths, and how can you create the space where you can be introverted And to be very successful in your career.

Lily [00:08:59]:
I that is wonderful. I love that. Exactly. How do you can be successful in your career while still while acknowledging that you tend to lean more on the introvert introverted side of the spectrum. And you also offer many exercises in the book as well. Correct?

Lily [00:09:16]:
Yes. That's right.

Lily [00:09:17]:
Yeah. Well, without giving too much away, as we as we talked about as we touched on a little bit briefly in the beginning of our conversation, Many introverted professionals, especially women, I feel, struggle with assertiveness in the workplace. And just the word assertiveness, I think conjures up maybe some images that either are, You know, just are correct or they're just of our own making because of our own profession of our own personal journey. So Not to, again, give too much away because we want you want readers we want listeners to go read the book, which there will be a link in the show notes. But can you offer maybe, like, 1 or 2 Practical tips, that that we may be able to use in the workplace for in in terms of, You know, in those introverted moments or if we identify ourselves as an introverted professional when maybe when it comes to I don't know if you wanna narrow it down a bit like, Speaking out in a meeting or it would or something like that. Any sort of tip or trick?

Lily [00:10:22]:
Yeah. Yeah. I love to share a few of, The tip the hints and tips I can offer. Okay. I think picking up on how what you have shared, at the start on Struggling with assertiveness? Mhmm. I think the first thing is to really Understand how do you define assertiveness? I think that is kind of a negative connotation that where Some people might define a surf business as aggressive or as someone that is very forward or someone that is quite loud or Someone that is perhaps much more extroverted than you. So it's I think the first one is kinda defining what exactly It's assertiveness for you. Because for those other people that you feel that are very assertive, that's their definition of assertiveness.

Lily [00:11:20]:
And that's how they like to participate and input into a conversation. And that's their preference. And there's nothing wrong with it. But it's about how do you understand how you like to be assertive? And then how do you then create the space so you can be assertive in the way you want. And, I think Great example of, highlighting what this looks like. It's Introverts, contributing in meetings. I think a lot of the time, introverts tend to feel that They don't speak up enough, or they can't find space to interject into the conversation, or before they even have Time to really reflect and think through what is being discussed. The conversation has already moved on to the next agenda point.

Lily [00:12:17]:
Yes. Totally relatable. Yeah.

Lily [00:12:21]:
So in my book, I actually share kind of, a a couple of things, but I want to pick out 2 key Key hints or tips that people can use to really start creating that space. And the first one I have explained or described it as buying time.

Lily [00:12:41]:
Mhmm.

Lily [00:12:43]:
So what this means is how do you buy time during the meeting so you have the space to reflect and to think so for me the way that I think about how to contribute to a conversation is all done internally. So, people don't really hear my thought process, they don't hear my filtering, but for a more extroverted person, they do it verbally. So that's kind of one of the differences in preferences. So how I tend to buy time to make sure that I have the space to share my thoughts and the time to share my thoughts it's so for example If you need more time to think A great sentence that I always love to use is You know what? You have raised a really valuable insight or you raised a really great point It is changing my initial view of how I'm seeing this. I need some time to further think about it. And I'll get back to you on this.

Lily [00:13:49]:
So Feeling pressure to answer in the moment Buy yourself some time.

Lily [00:13:53]:
Exactly. Exactly. You are still making a statement to say that I want Respond to what you have said, but now is not the right time or now is not the correct time for me to do so, but I will come back to you on that. Another way or what also, another thing that tends to happen during meetings is, If your fully formed thoughts only arrive after the conversation have moved on to the next topic, what I've also done, and this also landed quite well when I've used it, it's I know we have moved on from this However, what was discussed earlier really stood out to me and made me realize something. And I would like to Go back to that discussion point and to share my thoughts with you. Is that okay? And you're giving them you're giving the meeting group a decision So if they answer yes, then you now have the space to share your point If it's no because of time constraint, okay, tell them that I will make a note of it. And I'll reach out, After the meeting, as part of the meeting notes or reach out directly to the person that raised that topic to contribute your input.

Lily [00:15:18]:
That is I you know, I hear I've seen other people do that, and I agree with you. That is a strong Tactic to use because if there isn't time, that's still okay because then it it lets other people know. I have some additional thoughts that I'd like to circle back on at another time, or maybe I'll send an email or maybe through, you know, other means. But at least it's almost like you've waved your hand up. Like, I I'm here and my I have some valuable input. You know?

Lily [00:15:48]:
Yeah. Exactly. And the key is Stop putting pressure on yourself. Stop putting pressure. The more you put pressure on yourself to contribute, the more you worry about not contributing The more you worry about what should I say, you actually freeze more and you actually stay Silent dropped conversation. That happened to me multiple times.

Lily [00:16:12]:
Mhmm. Same. Because I think with Lily, when we're in those situations, I see everybody else contributing and everyone else just seems to contribute with ease, and there's no to me, Oh, there's no problem. They know what they're talking about. They're sharing. And then here comes everything you just described, like the self doubt. I shut down. I just remain quiet.

Lily [00:16:36]:
That's my go to.

Lily [00:16:38]:
Yeah. Yeah. And 1 the the I I think with that, then back to our kind of, moving on to kind of the second Hint or tip that I would like to share is, you are your own worst critic. No one is going to criticize you more than yourself. Yes. And one of the things that I needed to learn to do is how do I stop censoring myself? So part of that, it's really sitting and accepting that I have been invited to a meeting for a reason. And if I do not know that reason, to take the initiative to find out that reason, so I have time to prepare for it, Or I know what to bring into the conversation. So you can do a bit of pre planning.

Lily [00:17:30]:
And the next one is also for me to challenge myself. So for me, I have to challenge myself that I do not need to or a Part does not need to be fully formed for me to share it. I think that's something I struggle a lot with. It's I want to make sure what I shared, I have covered all my bases, I have done my research, I know that it's the right answer, that I know how people Respond to it so that I have kind of a backup answer to the follow-up question. There doesn't need to be that much Planning in sharing your thoughts and sharing your contribution in in a meeting. So I had to challenge myself to start sharing my thoughts when They are about 80% ready and work on reducing that as I gain more confidence and more experience in doing it. So now I'm able to just kind of think on my feet and able to verbalize my thought into, and contribution during conversation and during meetings on the spot.

Lily [00:18:43]:
Excellent. Excellent advice. I I love that. Stop censoring. I actually wrote that down and put an exclamation point. That was my takeaway. Because you're right. It it is So easy to just fall back on that and to, you know, assume make assumptions maybe that aren't correct.

Lily [00:19:03]:
As just a safe a safety net for us sometimes. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Excellent tips, Lily. Buying time, circling back, Also, that's huge too. Stop pressuring yourselves to speak up. You know, legitimately, sometimes you just may not have Anything to add.

Lily [00:19:27]:
You know? And that's okay. Right? You don't have to speak up at every meeting. But as you so beautifully pointed out, you were invited for a reason. So if you, you know, honestly feel like you can can you need to say something or your contribution will provide value that you, you know, you can add to the conversation. It's important for you to believe that and then act on it.

Lily [00:19:52]:
Yeah. Yeah. And be before we move on to to move on the conversation, I think what you have shared, I would just like to pick up, and I, I kind of elaborate more on it. Mhmm. Yes. I agree that you don't need to speak up during every meeting or you don't need to constantly kind of interject or share Your thoughts when you have nothing to share or where it's not adding additional value to the conversation. And and I like to kind of, kind of break it up into kind of 2 buckets. I think the first one, it's Definitely.

Lily [00:20:32]:
For me, I walk away from conversations where I've only shared One thought, or one idea. And that was what people remember me most of. Compared to people that constantly speak up, but that's not additional value that they are adding to the conversation. So really kind of Accept and take confidence that one value add A one quality contribution is much better than quantity or or less, less, quality contribution. The second one that I like to pick up, it's just because you have nothing addition to add or you agree with, what have what is being discussed or what is being raised. Don't forget that people are also interested in hearing why you agree with That is a value add to the conversation. And what I have realised that As an introvert or as someone that is more introverted, the way that I think and why I agree with people's decision It's very different. I have always gotten feedback that, Lily, you have a very different and very unique way Of seeing situation, or seeing relationship, or kind of explaining, explaining stuff.

Lily [00:22:18]:
So, yes, while I might agree with the general direction or agree with the decision, What I'm adding value into the conversation is why I agree with it. And I'm also helping the conversation in broadening everyone's And perhaps, maybe we actually realized that that might not be the right decision Because that my contribution sparked a different conversation or a different idea, That we might come to a better decision. So don't discount sharing why and your thought process.

Lily [00:22:59]:
Oh, I love that, Lily. I'm sitting here shaking my head yes at everything you just said. I just You are speaking to me. It is really landing. Honestly, you are low key providing a coaching session to me. I'll be perfectly honest with you. I love that because it doesn't it seems easy to do or at least the way you you outlined it. And the reason why I'm using the word easy is because when it comes to speaking up in a group and when you say, oh, yes.

Lily [00:23:29]:
I agree with your point. And then internally, if I ask myself, well, Deb, why are you Green. Why do you agree with that point? Oh, well, I agree because bub you know, to to to speak up is one thing, but to Speak up and seem like a subject matter expert is another. But if you speak up and share your viewpoint, there really is no right or wrong. You're sharing Your perspective, as you just said, and quite possibly offering another viewpoint to this discussion at hand that maybe others hadn't thought about or maybe, you know, didn't look at it from that lens or whatever the case may be. So It's almost like I I mean, it has I hazard to say it this way, but it's almost like you're not wrong because it's your viewpoint you're sharing. And so I guess I'm kinda saying this wrong. I'm not sharing properly, Lily.

Lily [00:24:18]:
You know, it's like speak about this lamp. Well, I don't really I'm not Trisha, and I can't really speak too much about the lamp. Well, tell me why you like the lamp. Okay. Well, I can talk about why I like the lamp all day. You know? And now I'm in a comfort zone to share because you're asking me share my personal take on something versus, the actual widget itself. Am I

Lily [00:24:38]:
Exactly. Exactly. And That's also how you share it

Lily [00:24:44]:
and

Lily [00:24:45]:
the willingness for you to be challenged Yeah. By that viewpoint. Yeah. Yeah. So it it it's about, yes, this is my perspective, this is my contribution, this is my thought. What do you think?

Lily [00:25:04]:
Exactly. And and it's okay to be I love that. You pointed out it's okay to be challenged, because that's where also where growth happens. So, again, you're not trying to share because you wanna over, You know, I wanna be the loud one in the group, and everyone better conformed to my way of thinking. You know? No. You're trying to be a contribute a contributed member, you know, and and Contribute to the conversation or discussion. And so you may be we may be. You know, our eyes may be open to other avenues and viewpoints as well.

Lily [00:25:35]:
Yeah, and the thing is, don't think about you needing to be loud. Often time or most of the time, I am the I speak the quietest in the room. And I would be the 1 standing in front of the room, either presenting or facilitating or maybe running a coaching team session. I would still be I have I would have the softest and the quietest voice. But The confidence I'd have on what I can bring to the table, And how I show up into the session makes people listen to me. That okay, you know, Lilly has something to share, let's listen to her. So, I think one of the things for introverts is a lot of the time, we look at the people that we have defined as Confident. Or we have defined as, it's very charismatic.

Lily [00:26:42]:
As someone that is Really loud. Someone that has a lot of big gestures and movement. And we kind of make that the standard Of confidence. And why I written this book, it's there are so many different ways to demonstrate Confidence. Find your way. My way of confidence is quiet. I would not be able to match The energy of my most extroverted friend or my most extroverted colleagues, that's their energy, that's Their abstract and their gift for me, that's not me. So, I would actually be doing myself a disservice If I'm trying to be like another person rather than sitting and leveraging my strength.

Lily [00:27:35]:
Lily, That drop the mic right there. I could that's it. That's the golden ticket right there what you just said. That is it. That is it. Because, yes, I see others. I'm a loud talker by nature. I mean, I I I get made fun of constantly, you know.

Lily [00:27:51]:
But I that doesn't mean that I have a lot of confidence either. I just happen to have a, you know, a very loud voice. But when I'm in a group situation, Like a meeting type situation. Yes. I mistakenly exactly a 100% what you said. The 1 the squeaky wheel. Right? The 1 in the room That is just taking up a lot of space. That is very extroverted is what at least what I my opinion of being extrovert is, you know, the loud one.

Lily [00:28:19]:
I don't mean that disrespectful. I'm just saying, like, they're louder than me. Like, they just, you know, they just bring a lot to the table. And I Low key kind of admire that, you know? And I wish I I wish I had more of that. But I realize now I mean, I realize, you know, after thank you for calling attention to it that you that doesn't always equal confidence. Maybe you don't have to emulate that in order for you to project confidence or to feel confident. And I think as women, especially, we do think that. We well, I've to show up, and I've got to take up all this space.

Lily [00:28:51]:
And I have to be loud in order to be heard. Because I think so much of us in the workplace, they we are passed over. We are ignored. We are interrupted. We aren't given time to speak. And so, therefore, It's hard for us to kind of in a like, symbolically shoulder our way through and say, no. I have something to add, and you're gonna listen. You know, but that's gonna show up differently as you just said.

Lily [00:29:15]:
Some people are a little on the, you know, more boisterous side, and others Play more to a quiet strength as you as you showed us. So I love that. I just sorry. I just that really I just love that, What you said. So yeah. Wow. Oh my goodness. Can you tell this is why I was excited, Lily, to have this conversation with you because it's just it's so important.

Lily [00:29:39]:
There's so much that branches off from it. Right? So, and then okay. Well, in order to be respectful of time because I could keep miss Lily on the line forever talking about this. But, the one more little section I would love to just briefly touch John, if you don't mind is and you I believe you touch on this, networking in your book. That is like, Oh, no. You know, people hear networking, and they run screaming from the room. You know? Whether you're an introvert or an extrovert, just the whole networking events and that sort of thing or or team gatherings, You know, back to in person gathering some for some. Talk to us a little bit about those situations, maybe specifically networking events and, The could the intersection of being a an introvert and ex and exert and exuding our confidence in those types of environments? Is there anything that we can Maybe keep in mind or play into when we find ourselves in those situations?

Lily [00:30:32]:
Yeah. I can share many things, but Let me share a few. I think the first is networking It's just having a conversation. Mhmm. Let's not overthink networking.

Lily [00:30:51]:
Okay.

Lily [00:30:51]:
I think this Networking is just a conversation. I did not come up with this. My mentor, when I first started in my career told me this Because I said, oh, I don't like networking. I hate networking and I feel so out of place. And he was like, Lily, Stop putting pressure on yourself. Networking is just you and me having a conversation. We are here networking at the moment. Do you feel out of place talking to me? I hope not? So, look at networking as Just having a conversation.

Lily [00:31:29]:
And the second one is network in a way that fits you. So for me, The way that I love to network is either in a small group or in a one to one situation.

Lily [00:31:41]:
Mhmm.

Lily [00:31:42]:
So while I might Attend a big networking event. I would go up into either a small group or to another person and just have a one to one conversation. I would also be really mindful and respectful of my energy level. There's no need for me to push myself to attend And be present for the entire session when maybe my energy level only allows a 30, 40 minutes Networking session So after half an hour or 40 minutes I will excuse myself and say Right, this has been a great time But I need to leave or my energy level is quite low. I'm gonna excuse myself and if you have Found people that you like to follow-up with, get their details and follow-up after the session. So really kind of figure out how do you network in a way that fits you or bring a very extroverted friend with you to a networking event And have that person be your wing person. Have your friend be the one that Helps to interject into a conversation, or break into a networking group, or Bring you along as they introduce each other. So, there are so many different ways.

Lily [00:33:07]:
So it is really about taking time to understand, okay, of all of the networking of, like events that I've been to, What exactly did I like about this? What I didn't like about this and figuring out how do you network in a way that works for you?

Lily [00:33:26]:
How do you network in a way that works for you? That is it. I think that gets lost so much. And I'm glad you also pointed out that kinda goes hand in hand with, being in tune to your own cutoff time. You know, if after 30 minutes, you're as you said, the energy level is running low and you're pretty you're good. You know? You feel you've done you've you've Spoken to enough people, you're good. It's okay to to end the evening or end the session or or end the event for yourself in that way. I love that you pointed that out. That is great.

Lily [00:33:58]:
And I really like the idea of having a co a a copilot, you know, having a partner With you to help sort of, to help us keep us in check, in those moments. But but the most importantly, though, I love that advice you were given. It's just a conversation. Yeah. Nothing. I love that. I think we walk into networking events sometimes thinking we're on some sort of Pseudo stage, and we need to kind of perform in a way, you know, shake hands. And I had a boss once called networking a grip and grin because you're gripping someone's hand all the time and you're grinning all the time.

Lily [00:34:33]:
You know? He's like, oh, I have to go to another grip and grin. You know? So but My takeaway my overall takeaway from what you said is really approach those situations and turn them and reframe them into how it works best for you. Because if you are able to do that, maybe you will get the most out of what you were hoping to to gain. Okay. Yeah.

Lily [00:34:55]:
And I think to build on that, it's the purpose of networking is to build relationship.

Lily [00:35:02]:
Mhmm.

Lily [00:35:03]:
So if you turn up to a networking event as someone that is not you, to gain contacts, To gain referrals, to gain, information from people, you would stay at a really transactional level. Because if your dad's really built long term relationship, and I really hope you are using networking for that purpose, it's Eventually, they will get to know you. They will get to know that actually you you you look really different or you sound very different or you present yourself really different from the networking event that we met to the follow on conversation that we are now having. So that there's now a disconnect on okay. How do I how do I make sense of of these 2 Persona that you have shown me. So, go as yourself. And the people that you connect with, They are connecting to you authentically as who you are.

Lily [00:36:10]:
Go as yourself. Exactly. Connecting with you authentically as you Are yes. That's that's it. That's it. It seems so simple when miss Lily says it. You know? But and it truly is that Simple. But I think sometimes in our mind, we build it up to be more than it is.

Lily [00:36:27]:
But if we just keep that in mind, keep it simple and show up as ourselves, then We will make those connections that matter.

Lily [00:36:36]:
Yeah. And I think a lot of the time, as you say, it's the pressure and the build up And the worry, the self doubts, the the expectation that we have set for those situations that actually makes you not enjoy doing any of those things

Lily [00:36:58]:
Which is why I'm sure you get 2 reactions when the word networking comes up during your your talks or during your sessions. You know? Okay. Now we're gonna speak networking. Oh, no. You know, half the room probably groans and the other half is like, okay. You know? So oh, excellent tips though, Lily. And you know what I like about your advice and tips Is that they are very down to earth and practical. Nothing you said everything I should say.

Lily [00:37:22]:
You said today, I feel like I can go out and start to act on, like, this week. You know? They're just they're they're micro steps. They're baby steps. And they're really more to do with me, Like, internally, that will show up externally to that's just what I love about your advice most of all.

Lily [00:37:42]:
Yeah. Yeah. And that's always the approach that, I take because I From my own experience, I realized that I'm the person that holds myself back the most.

Lily [00:37:57]:
-Mhmm.

Lily [00:37:58]:
-Yeah. So I don't want anyone else who feels that they are pushing against that uphill journey. It's actually how much of that uphill journey is your self imposed doubts and uncertainties that's stopping you versus the reality of you're not getting the opportunities that you think you're qualified Full.

Lily [00:38:27]:
Mhmm. That's it. It's internal. That's right. Self imposed. That's right. Oh. See how all that now I see how all of that can trickle off into other areas of our life, you know, both professionally and personally.

Lily [00:38:45]:
So absolutely. Oh, well, miss Lilly, as I said, I could go on with this topic because this is fascinating to me. I love it. But if you, listener, are wanting to learn more, if this is resonating with you, I highly suggest you Check out the show notes to connect with Lily and to learn more about ways to get in touch with her and about her book, Quiet Confidence, Thriving in a world full of noise. Now, miss Lily, where can listeners find you if they'd like to learn more?

Lily [00:39:15]:
So you can either connect with me on LinkedIn. My name is Lily Woye, or you can check out my website lilywoye.com. Or just Google quiet confidence Driving in a world full of noise, and the book will pop up on the Google search as well.

Lily [00:39:33]:
Oh, I love that. That is fantastic. And I will have links in the show notes to all of that for easy connection with miss Lily. And, miss Lilly, before we let you hop off the mic, do you have time for 1 more bonus question?

Lily [00:39:48]:
Yes. For sure. Okay.

Lily [00:39:51]:
Oh, this is just a little question to help us get to know you a little bit better. You are, As we said, you are a speaker, an author, a people and culture catalyst, which, again, I know I keep repeating that, but I just love that title. You are a busy lady, Just to to put it out there. So when the world gets a little too much, what do you do to help yourself reset and rebalance and just sorta Bring it back to square 1.

Lily [00:40:18]:
I love going on walks. I actually just live around The corner is a really beautiful park in London, and I go on walks almost every day. And In the evening, I try to do daily evening yoga session, and that's really giving me the Space to wind down and to disconnect from work.

Lily [00:40:43]:
Thank you for sharing that. I appreciate you sharing us a little behind the scenes with What helps you reset and rebalance. Oh, but this has just been such an insightful conversation, Lily, and I thank you for allowing us to just sort of dive a little bit deeper into, what it means to be an introvert in the workplace, especially for a woman in the workplace and and that our story doesn't have to end there, that there are ways we can work with that to our advantage and to help us feel more successful along our career journey.

Lily [00:41:15]:
Yeah. Definitely. I mean, thank you for giving me the space to share my experience.

Lily [00:41:21]:
Well, that will conclude my conversation with Lily. As we wrap up today's episode, I want to extend a huge Thank you to Lily Woy for sharing her wisdom and insights with us. Lily's insight And her commitment to helping others unleash their quiet confidence is truly inspiring. I hope you found our conversation Just as enlightening and empowering as I did. Remember, embracing your true self and finding your voice in a noisy world is a journey. But with Lily's guidance, you're well on your way. So be sure to check out the show notes for more information on ways to connect with Lily as well as a way to check out her book, Quiet Confidence, Thriving in a World Full of Noise, for even more valuable insights. As always, my friends, as I love to tell you at the end of every episode, stay safe, be well, and remember, Keep having those conversations.